I will leave links to the pdf and I strongly encourage you all to read the entire book. The world has been duped by this claim which is erroneous at best and an outright lie at worse. The implications of this distortion have had long term and immediate impact on the support that the Western Leaders have for the State of Israel. Are they truly aware of the “democracy” that Israel claims to have? If not, then why not? If so, then why do they, with their own claims of being democratic, support Israel? https://ia800400.us.archive.org/21/items/JewishHistoryJewishReligionTheWeightOf3000Years/Jewish.history.jewishReligion-the.weight.of.three.thousand.years.pdf
"Therefore, the real test facing both Israeli and diaspora Jews is the test of their self-criticism which must include the critique of the Jewish past."
As Martin Lawrence would say, "True that!"
I first started paying attention to "Israel" and Zionism in April of 1968, right after I graduated from high school and was surrounded, in the U.S., by every form of struggle, perhaps, in U.S. history: Black nationalism, Black consciousness, Afro-centrism, Civil Rights, Feminism, Chicano rights, Native American rights (Russel Means and crew), the anti-apartheid movement, the rights of those now called "physically challenged," and more. Eebody and dey mamma was up in arms.
I kept up with the Palestinian struggle by reading Ali Baghdadi's weekly column in Muhammad Speaks Newspaper. Anyway, about Israel:
In my humble, or not so humble, opinion, there are two areas that have to be given very serious attention [and pardon me for injecting one of them: religious scriptures]. I ask that people take this quite seriously:
1. Psychological health. I'm talking about the psychological health of Israelis. Serious business.
2. Religious scripture. Warnings, both in the Torah and Qur'an, directed to "Bani Israel," i.e., "the Jews." [For this discussion, please disregard the issue of who IS and who AIN'T a "Jew"]
I'll not mention anything about No. 2 But, As regards psychological health, I invite readers to read two Substack submissions of mine:
Perhaps check out the latter submission first. It's a 4-minute, Rense.com video report.
Aside from the above two, I wrote one that I can't find at the moment. I suggested that "Israelis"--and this is not to be funny--need psychiatric, psychological, or psychotherapeutic treatment. In a sane world [pun intended or not],
1. The apartheid State [and state] of Israel would be dismantled
2. The United Nations Organization would have a military wing capable of intervening in disputes if necessary.
3. After apartheid in Israel was dismantled, every Ashkenazi "Israeli" would be required to submit himself or herself to a mandatory UN-sponsored mental health regimen that included psychological, psychiatric, or psychotherapeutic treatment. [Unfortunately, at this time, I would not trust the UN as far as I can urinate [and at my age, that ain't far] in a back-alley, male pissing contest. Yeah, we used to do that back in the day].
Now, there is one more Substack submission I offer for ya'll to check out:
The psychopathy examined by Dr. Bobby Wright is the psychopathy of Europeans (white folks). The Ashkenazi "Jews" in Israel are Europeans. They are not the lineal descendants of the ancient Israelites. They come from Europe. That's another huge story. Anyway, Dr. Wright concluded that Europeans [I don't remember if he gave a percentage] suffer from psychopathy.
To fully understand the Euro-Ashkenazi, he would suggest that they be studied as psychopaths. None of this was meant as "racist" attacks. The entire world has witnessed a constant, unrelenting assault on the non-Euro world by Europeans and people of European descent ["white" folks]. It's legitimate to ask--and pardon my ghetto--"DAMN!!! What's wrong with dem mufuc.....s!!!!"
Dr. Wright also recognized that Black folks, due to the psychopathy of Euros, suffer from what he called "Mentacide."
My first inclination is to suggest a solution based on "religious principles," or principles that can be found within the religious traditions. I know your stance. I knew about "cognitive dissonance" long, long, long before I'd ever even heard of that expression. I can speak only for myself.
Maybe I'm weird [no need for any response on that. 😊]. But, holding conflicting beliefs [ONE aspect of cognitive dissonance] was something, since third grade at Corpus Christi Grammar School, I was somehow able to NOT do, although, at the time, I just kept my mouth shut, especially after Sister Mary Holy Water invoked God's "mercy" by offering eternal burning in hell. After that, I just kept my mouth shut, and simply enjoyed the Catholic rituals at Mass.
By my Junior year at Hales Franciscan High School, I was a hardcore, stone atheist [Guess I'd read too much of the Bible]. Eight years later I accepted Islam.
Moved into a Mosque--upstairs room for rent. One of the first things I was "taught" was that, after Christians die, are put into caskets, and then buried, the "angels of Allah" go inside those caskets and beat the shit out of the Christians for "being," or having been, Christians. This was a Sunni Muslim belief. It was an Oy vey moment when I first learned that "Islamic" teaching.
Well, it was third grade time...AGAIN. As Isa Abdullah and I were sitting in the Mosque's kitchen, at the kitchen table, and he was beating the palm of his left hand with his right fist, to emphasize his objection to MY objection of that teaching, I thought, "Third grade....again." I have a point, but I'm tryna keep this brief.
What we see, right now, in terms of conflict on this planet, more so in the "Middle East" or "West Asia" is the cognitive dissolance spawned by the believers of three religions:
"Judaism" [Zionists]
"Christianity" [Evangelical Christian Zionist Jesus freaks]
"Islam" [Jihadis, Wahabis, Salafists--the ones that took over Syria]
All three include, within their teachings, messianic, eschatological beliefs that are literally fuelling what we see happening, right now, in the Middle East. In his book, Masih Hindustein Mein [Messiah in India], Ahmad explained (predicted) what the outgrowth of this madness would be; why it had developed, this "expectation of a bloody Imam, filled with hatred and spite," as he put it in his book.
Judaism? Their Messiah was supposed to do his thing peacefully. That changed
Jesus? Same thing, as we see, now, with the insane Evangelical Christian Zionists
Isa & Imam Mahdi? SOS, warmed all over.
Hope I ain't preaching. I used to "win" debates with atheists [It's a male thang]. Good debates, too. I grew out of that when I realized that, yes, my "arguments" were rock solid truth. Then I realized something: It didn't matter. Because, the proponents of the three religions [as I see it] had f*cked up everything--which made the atheists correct, in a sense. My days of engaging in arguments with atheists came to a screeching halt.
"Dear Lord! Please save me from your followers!!" 🙏 First time I saw that sign in the back window of some dude's car, I cracked up. Now? I just stay to myself, acknowledging the Existence of Allah as I see it; understanding Qur'an as I understand it. I need no Imams. (as "arrogant" as that might sound). Oh well. 🥴
Interesting, but wow! This treatise isn't only damning about Israel but of Jews at his time. Perhaps the full extent of Jewish organizations' support for any treachery he mentions was the case. Certainly organizations in the US and South Africa supported Apartheid. However, curses to hurl at someone's grave? And all the individuals in the US who worked in solidarity with Black and Brown people on Civil Rights and combating brutal racism? Obviously the author and Vidal were angry and have their own experiences, and this is a scathing account of certain organizations, but this discourse seems to erase all the individuals who were not working on behalf of a colonizing state nor were necessarily Zionist nor had any kind of strange racist superstitions...as in obviously there are individuals identifying Jewish who have none of these underlying motivations. Very strange discourse.
Personally, I have had interest in many different religious persuasions, but I never felt drawn to Judaism. There are Jews who are secular, there are Messianic Jews, there are those who are atheist, and there are those who are anti-Zionist and there are those who are just Jews by birth. Whatever the case may be, any one who considers themselves Zionist, that's the playbook that Mr. Shahak is talking about.
When he mentioned the Jewish folks who participated in ending apartheid and fighting against racism here in the USA, I have my own perspective on that, having had some interactions with the NAACP that was primarily supported and established by the Jews here in the USA. To make it brief, let's just say there were a lot of moving parts going on with the Jews involvement in the civil rights movement. Being African American, I have had various interactions with Jews in the communities that I've lived in since a small child back in the 60's.
That's the thing about organized religions. They have their so-called holy books, especially those derived from the Abrahamic traditions, and most folks simply gloss over the parts that don't sound too good. It causes cognitive dissonance as folks want to continue with their undying faith in their books. But if you read the Torah, The Talmud or even the Old Testament, there are certainly things in there that should cause one to pause.
I read the entire book, it's not too long, but it certainly helped me to understand the fanaticism of Zionism. It is playing out before our eyes.
By now the indoctrination of Zionism and the strength of the teachings of the Talmud has definitely impacted on the perspective of those Zionists in today's Israel. Perhaps not the entire Jewish diaspora, but I question that as well, as there are some very disturbing teachings being brought forth by popular Rabbis on social media who are definitely expressing what Mr. Shahak expresses in his book.
I thank you for your comment, Sharon, and for taking the time to read the article. Be sure to check out the pdf in full, as I only cited portions of it. You also may want to research Mr. Israel Shahak to get more insight into his perspective.
I will leave links to the pdf and I strongly encourage you all to read the entire book. The world has been duped by this claim which is erroneous at best and an outright lie at worse. The implications of this distortion have had long term and immediate impact on the support that the Western Leaders have for the State of Israel. Are they truly aware of the “democracy” that Israel claims to have? If not, then why not? If so, then why do they, with their own claims of being democratic, support Israel? https://ia800400.us.archive.org/21/items/JewishHistoryJewishReligionTheWeightOf3000Years/Jewish.history.jewishReligion-the.weight.of.three.thousand.years.pdf
"Therefore, the real test facing both Israeli and diaspora Jews is the test of their self-criticism which must include the critique of the Jewish past."
As Martin Lawrence would say, "True that!"
I first started paying attention to "Israel" and Zionism in April of 1968, right after I graduated from high school and was surrounded, in the U.S., by every form of struggle, perhaps, in U.S. history: Black nationalism, Black consciousness, Afro-centrism, Civil Rights, Feminism, Chicano rights, Native American rights (Russel Means and crew), the anti-apartheid movement, the rights of those now called "physically challenged," and more. Eebody and dey mamma was up in arms.
I kept up with the Palestinian struggle by reading Ali Baghdadi's weekly column in Muhammad Speaks Newspaper. Anyway, about Israel:
In my humble, or not so humble, opinion, there are two areas that have to be given very serious attention [and pardon me for injecting one of them: religious scriptures]. I ask that people take this quite seriously:
1. Psychological health. I'm talking about the psychological health of Israelis. Serious business.
2. Religious scripture. Warnings, both in the Torah and Qur'an, directed to "Bani Israel," i.e., "the Jews." [For this discussion, please disregard the issue of who IS and who AIN'T a "Jew"]
I'll not mention anything about No. 2 But, As regards psychological health, I invite readers to read two Substack submissions of mine:
BodyTalk for recovering, former Zionists
https://ronchism.substack.com/p/bodytalk-for-recovering-zionists?utm_source=publication-search
When mental illness and religion meet
https://ronchism.substack.com/p/when-mental-illness-and-religion?utm_source=publication-search
Perhaps check out the latter submission first. It's a 4-minute, Rense.com video report.
Aside from the above two, I wrote one that I can't find at the moment. I suggested that "Israelis"--and this is not to be funny--need psychiatric, psychological, or psychotherapeutic treatment. In a sane world [pun intended or not],
1. The apartheid State [and state] of Israel would be dismantled
2. The United Nations Organization would have a military wing capable of intervening in disputes if necessary.
3. After apartheid in Israel was dismantled, every Ashkenazi "Israeli" would be required to submit himself or herself to a mandatory UN-sponsored mental health regimen that included psychological, psychiatric, or psychotherapeutic treatment. [Unfortunately, at this time, I would not trust the UN as far as I can urinate [and at my age, that ain't far] in a back-alley, male pissing contest. Yeah, we used to do that back in the day].
Now, there is one more Substack submission I offer for ya'll to check out:
The Psychopathic Racial Personality
https://ronchism.substack.com/p/the-psychopathic-racial-personality?utm_source=publication-search
The psychopathy examined by Dr. Bobby Wright is the psychopathy of Europeans (white folks). The Ashkenazi "Jews" in Israel are Europeans. They are not the lineal descendants of the ancient Israelites. They come from Europe. That's another huge story. Anyway, Dr. Wright concluded that Europeans [I don't remember if he gave a percentage] suffer from psychopathy.
To fully understand the Euro-Ashkenazi, he would suggest that they be studied as psychopaths. None of this was meant as "racist" attacks. The entire world has witnessed a constant, unrelenting assault on the non-Euro world by Europeans and people of European descent ["white" folks]. It's legitimate to ask--and pardon my ghetto--"DAMN!!! What's wrong with dem mufuc.....s!!!!"
Dr. Wright also recognized that Black folks, due to the psychopathy of Euros, suffer from what he called "Mentacide."
Interesting, Ron.
My first inclination is to suggest a solution based on "religious principles," or principles that can be found within the religious traditions. I know your stance. I knew about "cognitive dissonance" long, long, long before I'd ever even heard of that expression. I can speak only for myself.
Maybe I'm weird [no need for any response on that. 😊]. But, holding conflicting beliefs [ONE aspect of cognitive dissonance] was something, since third grade at Corpus Christi Grammar School, I was somehow able to NOT do, although, at the time, I just kept my mouth shut, especially after Sister Mary Holy Water invoked God's "mercy" by offering eternal burning in hell. After that, I just kept my mouth shut, and simply enjoyed the Catholic rituals at Mass.
By my Junior year at Hales Franciscan High School, I was a hardcore, stone atheist [Guess I'd read too much of the Bible]. Eight years later I accepted Islam.
Moved into a Mosque--upstairs room for rent. One of the first things I was "taught" was that, after Christians die, are put into caskets, and then buried, the "angels of Allah" go inside those caskets and beat the shit out of the Christians for "being," or having been, Christians. This was a Sunni Muslim belief. It was an Oy vey moment when I first learned that "Islamic" teaching.
Well, it was third grade time...AGAIN. As Isa Abdullah and I were sitting in the Mosque's kitchen, at the kitchen table, and he was beating the palm of his left hand with his right fist, to emphasize his objection to MY objection of that teaching, I thought, "Third grade....again." I have a point, but I'm tryna keep this brief.
What we see, right now, in terms of conflict on this planet, more so in the "Middle East" or "West Asia" is the cognitive dissolance spawned by the believers of three religions:
"Judaism" [Zionists]
"Christianity" [Evangelical Christian Zionist Jesus freaks]
"Islam" [Jihadis, Wahabis, Salafists--the ones that took over Syria]
All three include, within their teachings, messianic, eschatological beliefs that are literally fuelling what we see happening, right now, in the Middle East. In his book, Masih Hindustein Mein [Messiah in India], Ahmad explained (predicted) what the outgrowth of this madness would be; why it had developed, this "expectation of a bloody Imam, filled with hatred and spite," as he put it in his book.
Judaism? Their Messiah was supposed to do his thing peacefully. That changed
Jesus? Same thing, as we see, now, with the insane Evangelical Christian Zionists
Isa & Imam Mahdi? SOS, warmed all over.
Hope I ain't preaching. I used to "win" debates with atheists [It's a male thang]. Good debates, too. I grew out of that when I realized that, yes, my "arguments" were rock solid truth. Then I realized something: It didn't matter. Because, the proponents of the three religions [as I see it] had f*cked up everything--which made the atheists correct, in a sense. My days of engaging in arguments with atheists came to a screeching halt.
"Dear Lord! Please save me from your followers!!" 🙏 First time I saw that sign in the back window of some dude's car, I cracked up. Now? I just stay to myself, acknowledging the Existence of Allah as I see it; understanding Qur'an as I understand it. I need no Imams. (as "arrogant" as that might sound). Oh well. 🥴
Interesting, but wow! This treatise isn't only damning about Israel but of Jews at his time. Perhaps the full extent of Jewish organizations' support for any treachery he mentions was the case. Certainly organizations in the US and South Africa supported Apartheid. However, curses to hurl at someone's grave? And all the individuals in the US who worked in solidarity with Black and Brown people on Civil Rights and combating brutal racism? Obviously the author and Vidal were angry and have their own experiences, and this is a scathing account of certain organizations, but this discourse seems to erase all the individuals who were not working on behalf of a colonizing state nor were necessarily Zionist nor had any kind of strange racist superstitions...as in obviously there are individuals identifying Jewish who have none of these underlying motivations. Very strange discourse.
Personally, I have had interest in many different religious persuasions, but I never felt drawn to Judaism. There are Jews who are secular, there are Messianic Jews, there are those who are atheist, and there are those who are anti-Zionist and there are those who are just Jews by birth. Whatever the case may be, any one who considers themselves Zionist, that's the playbook that Mr. Shahak is talking about.
When he mentioned the Jewish folks who participated in ending apartheid and fighting against racism here in the USA, I have my own perspective on that, having had some interactions with the NAACP that was primarily supported and established by the Jews here in the USA. To make it brief, let's just say there were a lot of moving parts going on with the Jews involvement in the civil rights movement. Being African American, I have had various interactions with Jews in the communities that I've lived in since a small child back in the 60's.
That's the thing about organized religions. They have their so-called holy books, especially those derived from the Abrahamic traditions, and most folks simply gloss over the parts that don't sound too good. It causes cognitive dissonance as folks want to continue with their undying faith in their books. But if you read the Torah, The Talmud or even the Old Testament, there are certainly things in there that should cause one to pause.
I read the entire book, it's not too long, but it certainly helped me to understand the fanaticism of Zionism. It is playing out before our eyes.
By now the indoctrination of Zionism and the strength of the teachings of the Talmud has definitely impacted on the perspective of those Zionists in today's Israel. Perhaps not the entire Jewish diaspora, but I question that as well, as there are some very disturbing teachings being brought forth by popular Rabbis on social media who are definitely expressing what Mr. Shahak expresses in his book.
I thank you for your comment, Sharon, and for taking the time to read the article. Be sure to check out the pdf in full, as I only cited portions of it. You also may want to research Mr. Israel Shahak to get more insight into his perspective.